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What do you as a naughty boy get spanked most often for?   Dads/Tops - What do you find is the most frequent reason to administer a spanking?   Here is my own list of things I get it for the most!   Disrespect (now includes if I do it online).   Losing purchase reciepts.   Not doing my chores on time.   Not doing as I am told.   Staying up too late at night on the computer.   Bad Language.   Touching his stuff without permission.                    

My least favorite sayings pop uses:   'Because I said so'   'Your bottom looks cute in red'   'Now go decorate the corner with your red tushy'   'What a nice V shape you make when over my lap'   'If you disciplined yourself, I wouldn't have to'   'Your being spanked because it has to be done, whether you like it or not'   'This is going to hurt me more than you'   'You don't get a vote son'   'Over my lap, come on, all the way over'   'If you dont't want to be spanked then you shouldn't have been naughty, should you'?   'You respond so well when having your bottom smacked'   'Does Mr Hand need a chat with your backside?'   'When we get to the hotel, pick a corner and stay there'            

Yea, sometimes I really get frustrated at some the discipline or punishments my Pop comes up with, so here are some of mine.  Feel free to add to the list!   Being made to fetch the spanking impliment, especially the hairbrush. Cornertime (goes without saying). Being sent for a nap for being grouchy. A bedtime spanking - who the heck came up with that one?  I don't want to be spanked before I climb into bed! Being sent to bed early .. come on seriously! Being denied pants and briefs for a period of time, really sucks if it ends up being all day.  My bare bottom does not have to be on display thank you very much! Being ummm shaved - yea you know where, I hate it, hate it, hate it! Being bathed ... am not gonna comment much on this, though it usually goes hand in hand with shaving. Having to say 'I have been a very naughty boy, Dad and I need to be spanked' or something similar. Writing an esaay on 'What I learned from my punishment' or some other nutty topic! Having to wear a drop seat suit to bed, or silly little Pajama Sets.   Dang it, just stop it will ya!      

Okay, so I was asked to post this by my Dad.  So for privavcy reasons, I have removed all personal information and changed the names of those involved.     Dear Ryan,   I am very pleased to hear you have finally decided to take Billy in hand, from what you have told me, he is need of some good old-fashioned discipline.  You asked me how I discipline Jamie, well hopefully my answer may prove useful to you as you begin this new stage of your relationship.   The fact of the matter is there are many boys out there, that have missed out on discipline and will respond well to it. Never hesitate to prove that tough love and clear direction will provide him with the security, dependability and reassurance he needs.   Jamie and Billy are both naughty boys, and as such they must be treated and disciplined as naughty boys and that means SPANKINGS!    When you decide to spank Billy, there should be an objective in mind. The best objective is to spank him hard enough and long enough to produce, begging and pleading for the discontinuance of the punishment. Depending on the boy there may very well be real tears present.   Let us assume, Billy is now standing in front of you, as you sit on your spanking chair.  Scold him and let him know how disappointed you are with his behaviour and tell him he is going to be punished.   Now bare his bottom yourself for punishment, take his pants and briefs down and put him across your own lap.   With Billy over your lap, you should take the opportunity to lecture him, constantly pointing out the reasons for the punishment and the fact that the punishment is well deserved. Allow him to speak freely and openly over your lap, but no matter what he confesses to or how sincere his promises are, the spanking will take place anyway   During this lecture period, his bare bottom should be rubbed and patted frequently with your hand.   Once his spanking begins, do not be moved by his actions and responses during his spanking. No matter what he says simply continue to spank him, he is after all being punished.   Using just your hand start to slap his bare bottom softly and sensually, enjoy watching it bounce and his movements as he tries to avoid the stinging.   Pick up the pace now as rosy red marks begin to appear, spank him slowly, building up, but longer, harder and deeper watching as his bare bottom squirms and wriggles.    Now spank those more tender areas at the bottom of his cheeks and the upper parts of his inner thighs. Stop frequently but briefly as you again lecture and scold him,    Only stop spanking him, when a solid promise has been made from him. which will satisfy you and also be grounds for future spankings of a similar type should the promise be broken.   After his spanking, leave him dangling over your knees, for some length of time to meditate upon his punishment. Review the reason for his spanking, and the promise he made while being spanked. Rub and pat his bare bottom and assure him that if he does it again, he will be spanked again only harder and longer.   Once you have finished, he will need time with his bottom nicely on display as he stands in the corner. Stand him there with his pants and briefs down around his ankles, his freshly spanked and very red bottom on display.   Your next responsibility is to provide aftercare and assurances that he is just fine.  Take a lot of time here, with hugs and pats … you will figure that out yourself as with each dad and Boy it is very personal and incredibly bonding.   So that is pretty much how I punish Jamie’s bare bottom, these days and it simply works!    Oh, and yes, I have agreed that Jamie can visit Europe by himself, visiting a German uncle and Dutch dad that he knows.    Am I worried about that?   Not at all, I know these gentlemen will do a fine job of keeping my boy in line and provide discipline when he needs it.  I have told him that when he staying with them, he is to obey their rules and they have my blessing to administer punishment as they see fit.   PS – Surprise!  I am going to ask both of them to administer his weekly review and punishment sessions in my absence!  He maybe on vacation, but I don’t want him slipping into bad habits!    Do you think they will agree?     Take care and all my very best wishes to both you and Billy.     Daddy D.  

In this guide, I compile some of my personnel ideas (meaning not everyone may agree) on how to be a good spanker that efficiently meets nice spankee and slowly but surely build a network of spanking friends. I am quite sure this is not perfect because it is the first shot, but here we go ! I The starter kit: The very basic things that you need to know and have I.1 Know what you like and what you want The first things that any spanker should know or ask himself is : "What do I like about spanking ?". This is an important question because you will need to know that in order to set up your profile, and it will determine whether or not it might be a match with people that you could meet. There are many reasons why you may want to be a spanker. This includes: It is a deep rooted kink and you see yourself on the giving end. You have been on the receiving end and want to switch sides. You have a thing for the ritualistic aspect of spanking and punishment. You replay somekind of scene from your past that includes spanking. You have a spanking kink and enjoy being the one that turns other guys spanking fantasies into reality. You genuinly see yourself as a coach or mentor that can apply some strict discipline to errand lads in need of your assistance. You enjoy spanking as a sex foreplay, or as part of a broader BDSM scene, etc. There are many more, all valid reasons, which you can even combine. Having a good knowledge of which types of spanking scenes you like, and also don't like, will be useful to set up your profile and describe what kind of spanking sessions you can propose. I.2 Time and location are of the essence Let's start with location as this is perhaps the most basic requirement for a spanking meeting : it needs to happen somewhere. As such, living in a big cities and close to public transportations will be a great advantage compared to living in more remote areas. If you are in the latter case, you will need to be ready to move around a bit, or accept to welcome people into your home for longer periods of time (more about this later). Regarding the accomodation itself, while this is not mandatory, it is usually the spanker that should host any spanking meeting. Hosting a spanking at your place will always be more comfortable and will give you a psychological ascendant that is always a bonus in a spanker-spankee relationship. Your house should be clean and welcoming. An exception to this, is when you are travelling to another city far from your home. Then, using your hotel room, a B&B, or visiting your spankee at his place is perfectly acceptable. Does that mean that you can't be a good spanker if you can't host spanking at your place ? Not quite, but it is a problem if you can never host. The alternatives have been discussed already: Taking a hotel room. If you do so, avoid the cheapest ones that can really set up a creepy atmosphere. And you should also know, that to some spankees, hotel rooms and love hotels will be a turn off, and a deal breaker. Go spank your spankee at their place if they can host (which is not always the case). Besides from the loose of psychological power and the fact that you may quickly get bored when you put them in the corner, there is no real downside to it. Let's talk time now. Obviously you will need to find the time to meet people, whether it is to invite them at your place, or to travel to them. If you are only available on the 6th of each month between 1pm and 2pm, then between 5:30pm and 6pm, and only on full moon days, you will never meet anyone. You don't need to be available all the time, but you need to have a somewhat stable schedule and to know about it at least a few days in advance. Another thing that you need to know about time and availability is that not all spankings can be scheduled X weeks/monts in advance. For some spankees, the spanking need is a pulsion that comes and go. And when it comes, it needs to be dealt with quickly (as in within the next 2-3 days maximum). So don't plan on scheduling too long in advance with these guys. For others that are always in need of a good spanking, or like to build anticipation, as well as for coaching relationships, scheduling a long time in advance is easier. A last comment about time and location. As a rule of thumb, neither you nor your spankee should spend more time traveling to a session than the lenght of the session itself: You can be a great spanker, if your spankee needs to spend 3h in a train for a 30min session, he will stop coming at some point. Do not spend 4h and a ton of money in a plane/train travel in the hope of meeting a single spankee in a far away city. If you travel specifically for spanking purposes, you should book as many guys as you can because most of them will flake. Even better, if you can, do not travel just for spanking activities: it is better to travel for work, or to meet family and friend, and if some spanking meetings can happen, well it is a bonus ! I.3 Basics of spanking The last thing you need in your starter kit is to know how to spank in a safe and sane setting. This includes: Some basic butt anatomic knowledge to know where to spank and where not to spank. But also some basic sense of body language reading to know where your spankee is in term of mindspace and pain scale. Having a knowledge of BDSM elements such as SSC (safe sane and consensual) and RACK (risk aware consensual kink) is -in my opinion- mandatory. You should also know what "aftercare" is, and learn how to do it properly. This can make the difference between you being a spanker/dad/dom versus being a violent assh0le. Know how to use your hand, and have some of the basic implements that can be found at very low price and present little risks for beginners. The first part about where to spank should be relatively easy. Watch videos, see what other spanker do, and follow this schematic if you are still lost: The second part about reading body langage and knowing where your spankee is in his mindset requires more experience. And I am not going to lie : guys that have been spanked are going to be a lot better at it than any beginner spanker that has never been spanked before. Indeed, beyond the pain that might be inflicted by hand or using implements, spanking is a lot in the head and includes many elements such as humiliation, frustration, regression and abandonment that are quite difficult to understand and to read when one has never experienced them. Regarding the implements. I know for a fact that many beginner doms are overwhelmed and impressed when they see other spankers having tables fully covered with various implements that all look stingy and expensive when you look them up in the internet. I have two things to say about this One, in most cases at least 80% of these implements are crap that is rarely or never used. And two, if you want to be any good at spanking, your hand is your best weapon of choice ! The first spankings you give as a spanker should be mostly hand spankings: your spankee's butt should hurt more than your hand, and this requires training ! At first you might get some blisters and even bleedings. Slow down, keep training and it will improve with time. But you should know that your hand's skin will become less soft ! If you must invest in implements, aim for cheap but safe ones first: Brushes are inexpensive and can be found in any store. Don't buy online, go to the store and feel the wood ! Ping-pong paddles, flip-flops, wood rulers, slippers. If your country has a "national spanking implement", you may want to consider buying one : canes in the UK as well as in many commonwealth countries, a tawse in Scotland, a paddle in the USA and Canada, or a martinet in France. A word of caution on belts: While they are a common implement that is easy to find and can be found in a wide range of prices, it is not a beginner friendly implement ! If you want to use one, the buckle should ALWAYS be in your hand and never used to whip, start with very slow blows and a belt folded one or two times. Lashes shouldn't land anywhere else than the meaty part of the butt. And never apply a hard belting -especially if you don't know what you are doing- on a spankee that moves a lot ! II Setting up a profile that attracts people I am aware that there are many websites and apps to meet potential spankee and where you can set up a profile. This section aims at being generic, but you may need to adapt depending on the website you use most to meet people. II.1 Introducing yourself Your profile is often going to be the first contact that a potential spankee will have with you (and maybe the only one). Therefore, it needs to be as complete and attractive as possible. Furthermore, keep in mind that there are usually more spankers than spankees in a given place, so you will need to have a profile as good if not better than the other guys profiles. The key element of any profile that we will discuss in this section is your profile description, which is usually a few lines long (depending on the website), and is the best place to introduce yourself. If it is empty (or mostly empty), or if it isn't attractive, chances are you will struggle to meet anyone. The basic information that any profile description should contain (if they are not already displayed in other fields): Your location Who you are : your age, a basic physical description (height, weight, body type), and your experience if possible A description of what you like and what you are looking for (see I.1) Who you are looking for : age range, body type, are you straight friendly or not, etc. Any hard limits that you have (if there is space left): e.g. not into scenarios, no blood, no sex, etc. A few pitfalls to avoid in your profile description: Having a description that is very specific about what you want to do to your potential spankees, but says nothing about you or who you want to meet. It will mostly attract wankers, but you will never meet them. Example: "I will pull your pants down and spank you very hard on your bare bottom like a little boy. Then, you will go to the corner with your red butt for everyone to see, and you will wait for me to come trash your ass with my very large leather belt !" Having a description that makes you sound like a dead German philosopher. This is cool if you want to meet only people with at least 5 years of higher education, but everyone else will flee in terror. Example: "Spanking is a wonderful voyage where physical pain meets the spiritual extasy of endorphins and shame, all colliding together until your body and mind submit to the punishment, and at last you will know peace." Having a description that says nothing. Example: "Hello, I am Patrick, I am a 38yo writter. I like all sorts of boys. So, I want to meet like-minded guys that share my spanking interest and are staying nearby." Copy-pasting the description of another spanker of switch (partly or everything). You don't want people to believe that you have no personnality, or worst that you are a catfish. Eventually, depending on who contacts you and your success rate, you will figure out what is wrong with your description. Does it give too many details ? Not enough ? Is it missing something ? It will all come together. II.2 Posting pictures on your profile Whenever it is possible, it is usually a good thing to have pictures on your profile as it is a good way to show others what you like, and what you do. Your profile picture is perhaps the only picture that you will have to decide on nearly all applications and meeting websites. So pick wisely. It can be a face picture, a picture of your hand, a picture of an implement, one of your spanking picture, a drawing, or a spanking picture you like. My advice on profile picture would be that it is important to have one. Anything with even a few information about you is better than nothing. Then, you have the other pictures (think pictures albums in spankthishookups, or the pictures you share here on southspanking). These pictures are very important because they will tell A LOT about what you like, sometimes even more than your description ! If you post a lot of corner time pictures, it will emplies that you enjoy doing it. Lots of pictures with canes, you are a cane user ! Mostly badly bruised asses, then you like to give it hard ! Spanked asses with a zoom on butt holes, you might not be "straight guy friendly" ! You get the idea. And this is true even if the pictures you use are not your own. This leads us to two other points : What to do if you have very few or no pictures of your own ? And how to carefully choosing the captions with your pictures. If you don't have your own spanking pictures (or if they are not great), there is always the possibility of having pictures of implements that you like. A picture of your hand, or your knees. A shot of your chair with a belt carefully placed on the side. Use your imagination, and with the right captions, you can probably make pictures that will reflect on what you like. Alternatively, you can also use pictures from studios or from other spankos, but don't forget to credit them ! You may also put them in an album called "My method from web pictures", or "things I like". The worst thing that you can do when using others pictures, is not crediting and claiming them as your own, and their is a bonus if you add a dumb caption below explaining how YOU spanked this guy so hard. Since we are on the topic of captions, it is one of these rare case where no caption is better than a bad caption. A picture alone is relatively open to interpretation depending on whom sees it. On the other hand, if you add a caption, then the picture becomes what you say it is. "I spanked this little slut until he begged, and only then i let him suck my dick" is a good example of a bad caption that ruins the mood with this picture. Remember that you will attract people that can identify with what you post. And alternatively, you will repell people for which what you post is beyond their limits or not to their taste. And it will happen even before you can exchange a single message ! My advice is: unless you are almost exclusively into practices that you know are non-consensual or divisive : try to stay neutral and consensual with the pictures you post and their captions. III Getting in touch with spankees III.1 Contacting first or letting them contact you ? This is a difficult question and it will depend on how well you are established, and the number of potential spankees around you. That being said, no matter your experience, it costs you nothing to send a message to a new comer or a spankee you are interested in. The rules to do so are simple: read his profile, and if you don't see anything obvious that suggests that you may not be a match, send a message. The message should be polite, and if you are not inspired, it can be an extended version of your profile description with the needed adaptations to what the lad you are interested in seems to be into. You may also add to your message some potential availability and a more specific location than in your profile. As you may not get a second chance, take your time to write it and proof-read it. If you are established enough (you already have a good reputation -even as a spankee-, a pool of spankees, and a profile that works), you can wait for people to message you. But you should know that you will get less hits and not necessarily the ones you are the most interested in. Waiting is also a good option if you have only little availability. III.2 Know when to stop messaging It can be frustrating to send messages and get no answer at all. And even more to exchange a few messages and then no more answers without any warning, or even : the guy blocks you for no obvious reason. Even if it can seem quite rude to you, there are probably reasons behind it: With a new comer that is in his 20s: it is likely that every single spanker in the area sent him a message at the same time as you did. That's a lot of messages. Yours didn't make it. Try again in a week or two if you sees that his profile is still active. He is part of these guys with a beginner profile since 5 years: It's not you, they never answer any messages. There is no profile picture, the age in the description is 2 years behind the profile age. No need to try to reach them again, it is a waste of time. You exchanged a few messages. He asked you how you wanted to spank him. You explained with many details. And then he stops answering. Most likely he had a great time in front of his screen reading about your spanking scenario, he jerked off and doesn't need you anymore. It is nothing personnal, he wasn't ready. Try again in a few months. In any case, unless it is with a regular, if a guy doesn't answer you after 2-3 messages while his account seems to be active or if you know that he did receive your messages; it means that he is not interested. So, stop messaging. You don't want to be that sticky guy that sends messages every days. IV Improve your skills and grow your network IV.1 Invest and improve your skills With time and if all goes well, you should get at least one, or a few regular spankees. Having regular is a good opportunity to improve your skills both with implements, but also on the psychological side of spanking. As they learn to trust you, your regulars will be more open about what they like or not during their sessions with you. Take the time to listen and learn ! Remember that -unlike what some morons think- spanking as any BDSM activities is mostly about what the sub/spankee needs and enjoy. Your spankees will also open up more about their deeper spanking desires, and most likely will be willing or even asking for harder sessions. Use this to progress with your skills and explore new things with them. Speaking of harder sessions, if you did not already, you should learn how to do a proper aftercare. Basically, you don't make a guy cry or push him beyond his limits and push him out of your flat in 5min right after the spanking is over. The more you push, the more you should spend time soothing them and taking care of them after the spanking is over. Soothing cream, warm blankets, hugs, massages, hot cocoa and cookies might prove useful. It is also curtuous to ask if everything is well 24 to 48h after the session: mental breakdowns can happen even after they have left your place. And knowing if the eventual bruises are healing well is an important information. Keep in mind that in your learning process you will make mistakes, and not everything will work for both parties. But this is a good thing, because you will know what not to do next time to make your sessions better. As time passes and you meet more people, you can also surely but surely invest into new spanking implements. I usually suggest not to invest into anything expensive unless you have lots of requests for it from locals spankees, or if the request comes from a regular. I also suggest to put the price rather than buying a crappy toy that makes a lot of noise, doesn't hurt much, and will be destroyed after only a few slaps. For my good toys, I personally like https://www.cane-iac.com/ , but I know they can be expensive! IV.2 Respect the limits: your spankees' limits, but also yours I mentionned a few times the importance of safe, sane and consensual meetings when it comes to spanking, as well as the need to be careful when searching for profiles that match your needs. Nevertheless I will insist that one of the key to becoming a successful spanker is to respect the limits of the people you will meet ! A spanker or dom that consider that he does what he wants to a sub/spankee is a bad dom/spanker, this is wrong, can lead to pursuit, and at least will give you a very bad reputation. I will push things further by saying that a good spanker/dom should insist that his potential spankee/sub gives him some hard limits. A spankee/sub that doesn't know or doesn't have any limits is a disaster waiting to happen and you should avoid meeting him. Limits to ask for include: Sex or no sex. This one should always be discussed before any meeting. And yes, a surprise finger in the butt counts as sex, and can be very much unwanted even if your spankee is gay ! Severity of the bruises, especially if the guy tells you he is partnered. And it is your role to know how to handle your implements, and to stop (or abort the session early) before crossing any fixed limit Pain : do we remain soft, do we push you to your pain limit ? a bit beyond your limit ? do we turn you into a crying mess ? A word of advice : don't cross their pain limit if you are not great with aftercare. Nudity and physical contact: some straight lads are very strict about this. Drawing blood: Sanitize your implements well if you do it. (you should sanitize them anyway, but even more carefully if you draw blood). There is no such thing as a spankee with too many limits. If he has too many limits to your taste, then don't meet him. And finally, you may ask for some limits to be pushed -slowly-, but it is best to do it only with spankees you already know, and if they say no, then you should respect their refusal. We have discuss a lot the limits of potential people you will meet, but you should also consider yours. A common issue of beginner to mid-experienced spanker is that they tend to accept any spankee so long as he is young and has a very cute butt, even though said good-looking spankees are asking for something very far from the spanker interests. It is sometimes difficult, but you should no to refuse a cute spankee if what he asks doesn't match with what you are looking for. If you still meet regardless of the poorly matching profile, either or both of you may end up being dissapointed with the session. Please note that the same can happen when you get lots of demands: follow your guts and refuse meeting that yhou know deep down will not work. Less meetings is better than lots of bad ones. IV.3 Networking and reputation As they will gain momentum, your network and your reputation will be your main tools to meet new lads, some of which might not have accepted to meet you before. A spankeed satisfied with your session is your best ambassador ! Do not hesitate to ask your regulars if it is okay to use them as references for guys that are hesitant to meet you. Treat them with respect, and always ask their permission to post their pictures or videos on your profile : it is their butt that is going to be on the internet for tghe world to see, not yours ! Their spanked ass will be your visit card, so you must be grateful to them, and respect their wishes if they want some picture or caption to be changed or removed at any point. Treating your network well is part of growing your reputation, and it takes only a few disgrunted spankees to ruin years of hard work building your reputation. So be extra cautious and on your toes about this. What about other spankers in your areas ? Well, you should also try your best to maintain neutral to good relation with them ! First, it takes several spankees and spankers to organize spanking parties.  Other spankers are also a good source of information to know which lads are flakes, who is a wanker, and even to share information about what works or not about spankees you have in common (with their consent, always). Furthermore, as we mentionned in section I, everyone has different tastes and availability. In other words, you can send them spankees that are not a match for you, and you may expect them to do the same. Petty jealousy with another spanker "because he gets all the spankees", or "because he spanked X last week so now he can't meet with me", or "because he has a more intimate/different relationship with Y" is generally a bad idea. Very few spankees are exclusive, so their is a good chance that you will have your turn if you are a good match too. Asking a spankee to choose between 2 spankers he likes is also a bad idea because even if he chooses you, your relationship will be damaged. In the same vein, a bit of teasing between spankers is okay, but blattant and free provocation between spankers should be avoided: any spankees involved will notice and it won't look good. It is even worst if other members of the community notice, and too much teasing will make you the bad guy, which can also damage your reputation. Lastly, slandering or speaking ill of another spanker should be avoided: at some point someone will notice that it was a lie, most likely his network of spankos will speak out, and it won't do you any good. The only situations where it is acceptable to warn other members of the community about a spanker and to give him a bad reputation include: You know for a fact that he doesn't respect consent and has broken hard limits about sex, bruises or drawing blood. in other words, he is violent and or dangerous. Even in this case, you should rather push spankees that were the victims to speak out first. Minors are involved.

Start at Bottom and Read from bottom up: From: m To: Me On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:49 PM EDT That strap scares the hell out of me .. lol. Let’s do the 20 pants up - then 8 rounds of 20 using wooden paddles then the last round of 20 use the strap - if I’m not crying and sobbing by the end of that you continue using the strap until I’m sobbing - dang you are a good negotiator.. lol I’m going to be nervous about this for sure .. since I don’t get to see you often might as well go for it … From: Me To: m On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:38 PM EDT Hell you're no lightweight son...we don't need all the preliminary pants up stuff. How about 20 pants then they come down. Then 5 rounds of 20 alternating with a paddle and my black rubber strap. If the strap doesn't have you in tears and your ass isn't too tore up, we can pick an implement or two and go from there. From: m To: Me On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:23 PM EDT I’m ok with trying - let do 5 rounds of 20 pants up and 5 rounds of 20 bare - if I’m not in tears by then I pick the paddle and bend over bare for you to paddle me to tears … you have me all kinda nervous now .. lol From: Me To: m On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:17 PM EDT I'd be a lot more interested in getting some real tears by the end of that whipping. Probably not going to happen, but something to shoot for. From: m To: Me On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:13 PM EDT Lol .. that’s been used trying to get someone to keep up with you .. I will try and see what I can take - you are a lot more than these other guys - I’ve meet one other guy who pushed me over the top but you 2 are the only guys who have ever pushed me that hard .. most of these guys want to swing a few licks - rub my ass and then have me suck them off - most are more interested in a banned word than actually spanking me .. lol From: Me To: m On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:08 PM EDT How about this? It is straight from your profile description: ".I love taking 10 rounds of 20 licks bare then letting the spanker just open up and swing till he gets tired of swinging !! I’m a pain slut .. Comments: Once I’ve taken my rounds of licks and the spanker paddles me till he is tired of swinging , hopefully I’m in tears, " From: m To: Me On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:04 PM EDT Exactly.. and I don’t have that feeling with anyone else who paddles me ? All the others are like “ ok let’s do this “ I’m 5 days away from meeting you and bending over for you and I already have nervous feel in my stomach while I’m typing this thinking damn he is going to bust my ass hard and I know I struggle with you .. let’s just go ahead and say - 5 paddles with 20 licks from each paddle bare - From: Me To: m On Nov 11, 2021, at 11:58 AM EDT Sounds good. If you're approaching it with a slight queasy feeling, a slight feeling of dread, then I know I've been doing my job right.  

Hi Everyone, Sorry I have been absent lately, we have had a whole lot going on here, all from a personal perspective, I have had zero time on the site and I apologize. I also want to thank everyone that has donated to the site, I am picking up emails and if you have not recieved a personal thank you from me, I will get around to it, your support means a whole lot to me and to the site. I hope everyone is well .. as you know today is Sunday, so my own bare bottom spent some qaulity time over my dad's lap and my bottom being displayed in the corner afterwards.  It's a hard life for a boy! .. well his bottom anyway! hugggggiieeeesssssssssssssssss James

Well another BAW has come and gone.   So I'm a bit down about it; it's hard to come back to normalicy.  After posting & chatting with a few others on Discord, I see I'm not alone in that experience.  Several have mentioned breaking down and crying on the trip home or after getting home. So I'm over at the ptbf's for supper.  We're in the living room having just finished eating.  As usual, he and his husband have the TV on, but have their faces buried in their PC's.  I tell the ptbf I want to tell him about some of my adventures at BAW and want him to read what I've posted on Discord about it.  First he says he can't read it on my phone; too small.  When I suggest his PC, he's not really wanting to look at a long story right now.  And he's not interested in my telling him about it.   That actually hurt; this stuff is important to me. So after waiting a bit, I take my plate to the kitchen (a good excuse).  I go out the back door to the back porch.  It's up 30 ft in the air; looks over the back yard.  Nice view; it's nice out there.  I put my hands on the railing, look around.  I tear up a bit but don't actually cry.   Then I remember two things; the husband has Real problems; health problems.  And Lee, the ptbf is really tired from work these days.  I develop a mantra and I say it out loud.  It helps: "Other people draw strength from me. I do not draw my strength from others If anything, I draw my strength from God." Repeating this a couple times, out loud actualy helps.  :)  

Here are some things I posted on the BAW Discord channel the day I got back from the event.  I'll add a couple of things as I'm not as limited in length and I feel less need to self-censor here. What can I say? It was great. Wednesday was great, Thursday was totally Aweseome. Friday was a bit of a lull by comparison, but that's ok; let me rest for Saturday, which was also Awesome for different reasons. The Pledge class for 2021 kept me busy. You guys were fantastic. Too bad about the paddles; but they worked out for signatures. (Broke the first one on the first pledge I paddled; "swat", "swat", "swat", cracked). Eric, Sorry you got picked on so much. We had one mean brother that insisted on making it rough on the pledges (I of course was always sweet & gentle with the paddle :smile: ) I'm afraid the "bad brother" (RedRump) & I got Eric a bit harshly after hours (but that boy has a iron butt). For my designated Little Brother, sorry you had to drop out; maybe you'll do it again next year. We never did get Eric to make it through the Greek alphabet. Though by the end, I think all the pledges could recite the full names, positions & city of each host; as well as the original founding date, etc). And the Bad Ass Hell weekend pledge line-up (gauntlet)...damn, you never seen so many Red & Purple butts. :smile: (We got a little extra assistance from a couple of doms that happened to be standing by. Jonny, thanks for adding your "helpful hands' lol.)  I Also need to thank the PM for coming up with the idea.   Spankopoly & Spank poker were also a great time. Pledge Kev got to take some sweet revenge on yours truly in the poker game (lady luck was definitely Not with me).  Of course I Had to play; a poker game where the bets are but swats?  What country boy that happens to be a spanko could resist that? That last hand; still can't believe he bluffed all of us with two 4's. (But you try calling a 20 swat bare butt bet when you haven't been spanked in 2 years & all you have is two Kings; darn right I folded. That limited to damage to 10 frat paddle swats on bare). I got to exact a Little revenge when I finally won a hand. Spanked across Parliament was also great fun...it was hilarious.  Perhaps a bit of overacting; some of the "boys" acted like those swats actually hurt.   The plot eludes me, but I think the pool boy did it. :smile: Unfortunately there's no way to attend Every event. And it had to eventually end :anguished: Until 2022! (edited)   One last thing since I've started. Want to thank the people that stopped by to chat, and Especially the guy that got over my knee that last night. My short red paddle I can slip in my back pocket was an afterthought; it sure came in handy (and you took it so well). I thought 12:30am - 2am monitor duty at the hosp. desk would be boring. I brought a book but didn't read a bit. (David, yeah I'll get back into it...I have to find out what a "Taltos" is and why my ptbf keeps comparing me to one). Now the bad (well not really bad).  Friday was pretty...meh.  No one seemed to be playing outside or in the dungeon.  It seemed everyone had retreated into their rooms.  There was probably a lot of private 1 on 1 play going on.  But that seemed to be over Saturday morning.  I'm not sure why.  Part of it could have been preception instead of reality.  Maybe because my Wed & Thurs were full of spankings given, and I had a full plate during the day, the evening was a letdown.  (That morning, I went on the walk with Dave, breakfast on site, then I had dungeon monitor duty (gave my relief 12 swats with a paddle for being 12 minutes late...lol), Then I went to set up spank monopoly at 3:30-5.  I ended up not playing myself because 1) I didn't like some of the rules, 2) they already had enough people and 3) I was more interested in the spank poker game, which I did participate in.  Then, according to the schedule, we had a Bad Ass pledge class meeting from 7:30-8:30pm. But things seemed dull that evening, with no one or very few out in the dungeon or elsewhere. So by Friday night 9pm or so (early for me), I was in my room wondering why I came and if I should call it an event and cut out early.  Of course I had a shift Sunday morning 12:30 to 2am, but someone else could cover that.  But then I don't like cutting out on work I've promised to do, even if it is trivial.  Also, I'd had a terrific Wednesday & Thursday, so maybe Saturday would be great too (it turned out that it was).   Part of that was the BAW hell week / pledge events, which I volunteered at a Frat Brother as an afterthought.  (Funny, that's twice something I just added on as an afterthought turned out to really save the day for me, the other being bringing the short red paddle with me to my monitor duty Sunday morning).    

A warning about pants and briefs at ankles!   Well fellow boys, I have to confess that my dad and hubby always takes down my pants and undies himself, baring my bottom for punishment.  I do actually prefer it that way, and in a crazy sort of way, it makes me feel a little ‘pampered’.  I suppose as he really is my ‘authority’ figure I allow myself to be prepared for the consequences as he sees fit.   So last night, there he was bending down into the bed room closet, and of course instinct took over, there in front mf my very eyes were his bottom stretched nice and tightly and my hand got itchy.  I swung it as hard as I could and it landed with a very satisfying slap.   As my hand landed and I heard that wonderful slap, I knew right away I was in big trouble, but of course there is no going back, the deed had been done.  Normally I am taken to the spanking chair, bottom bared and then over the knee I go but he decided to take down my pants and undies right there and then.  As he took me by my ear to lead me to the chair, I tripped on the pants and undies that were tangled around my ankles and fell pretty hard.   After a lot of fussing, and about ½ hour later when he was satisfied that no damage had been done, I got my bottom tanned and sat in the corner for a while.  Afterwards he told me that from now on, my pants and underwear would be completely removed for all future spankings, and that he would still be stripping me down himself.    It is something to think about, I could have for example tripped and fallen on to the corner of the table hitting my head.  So, beware and be careful if you find yourself in a similar situation.   And to those Dad’s and Tops that are about to say something like ‘Well if you had behaved it would never have happened’ – well for sure you are correct, but I stick my tongue out to you and blow a raspberry!   Hugssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss   James

Guys, It has taken me a few days to make this post, mainly because I am still actually working on the site. What we have successfully completed is to fix our server faults and to upgrade to the latest version of our current script with a fresh database. We are not finished and we will be upgrading to social engine. I would like to explain a little about performance.  In the coming days / weeks, I will be focusing on it, so that we get to a point where speed and performance is acceptable, that is as far as it goes.  After that I will be working on the social engine migration. Site performance is determined by a number of factors, these include the hardware, operation system, web server, database driver, cache manager and of course at the application level.  In order to get these perfect, would require some intervention from a seasoned professional, as there are literally hundreds of variables involved.  In our case we have Centos 8 - LiteSpeed WebServer - MariaDB - PHP 7.4 -  Redis - Phpfox (as you can see a lot of possible variables) I can do a lot of it but by no means all of it.  One of the things that really helps with a sites speed and performance is a cache plugin and there are a number of these available for Social Engine and WordPress, however nothing for our script, PhpFox. The Social Engine migration will run along side our current script, and no down time will be required until we are fully tested and ready to move.  That is an important feat, and largely due to what we have achieved recently. When we get that move over to Social Engine, I promise you – performance issues will be a thing of the past and mobile and tablet versions of the site will run exceptionally well.  If we want to attract new members and especially younger ones, we need it all to work. I appreciate your patience, and I know I have not delved into a whole lot in this post, but I am hoping to give you some insight on the direction I am moving.  All I can do is ask for your continued support, understanding and patience.    James

Polonius to Laertes: Fatherly advice to a flake (and since I'm weak, it includes one last chance, a FAT chance no doubt) Son, I don’t usually address the “boys” I try to work with to get them what they say they need, good hard spanking, as “son.” But in your case, since I’m easily old enough to be your father and since we seem to have evolved into a sort of nag/nagee relationship, I’m indulging. I don’t like that part of it any more than you do. This is a long letter. I hope you will read it, but, obviously, that’s your choice. So, listen, son. I hardly know you. Never seen your face. But I’ve interacted with you quite a lot, so I’m gonna tell you what I perceive and you can either take it in or not. First off, I’m done with the back and forth. Don’t bother to e mail me with “What time are you available next week?,” or anything like that, because that’s gone nowhere for over 20 attempts at an encounter and I’m not doing that anymore. But the reason I’ve been fairly patient with you is I sense that you are a sweet guy, maybe a little vulnerable, looking for some literal tough love but basically just want to be happy and fulfilled like everybody else. And even though I don’t really know you, I want that for you, too. We don’t really get a huge deal out of spanking younger guys, believe it or not. It’s fun, it energizes us, we like the encounters and getting to know guys who are out there looking for happiness and need a literal whack in the butt now and then. We do this for them. You may be skeptical of that, but it’s true. Straight or gay, doesn’t really matter. In my experience, men who need to get spanked often end up seeking out other men because women mostly either aren’t interested or just aren’t that good at it. They spank too hard or not hard enough, timing wrong, or, worst of all, they laugh at you. It’s funny to them. Some men do that, too, and I kind of hate it, but somehow from a man it’s different. Anyway, there are exceptions. There are guys who find women to spank them and it’s a perfect match. So, I’ll say this: whoever is your perfect match, who will take you in hand, pants down, and spank you till your butt is smokin’ crimson (which you clearly need), I hope you find them. And I hope you find fulfillment, success, and happiness on all levels. You deserve it. You’re obviously smart, affectionate, engaging. I suspect you’re adorable in the right context. One little piece of fatherly advice you may not need, but I’ll give it anyway. Don’t think this need is going to go away, or that you can treat it totally casually like it doesn’t matter. It’s part of who you are. You wouldn’t have kept up a dialog with me for over a year if that weren’t true. Please believe me when I tell you this. You need to come to terms with this, face it and find your way into it so that you are fulfilled and getting what you want and need out of it. You need to give that a certain level of priority so that it actually happens in your life. And that brings me to my other fatherly advice. Son, you need to start treating other people with more respect for their time. In every encounter, in business, in your personal life, every encounter… take a few seconds to picture how it looks from their side. Are you respecting their time? Treating them as you would like to be treated? Taking them seriously? Or do you seem to be only concerned with what you want? Do you ignore what they ask of you and focus on your goal? Because people see that, and they feel used and dismissed. I suspect you don’t even realize you are doing this, but, I’m telling you for your own good: you are. You will be happier, more fulfilled, and more successful, on all levels, if you take what I just said seriously and try to apply it to your life. I know I sound holier than thou, and I’ve probably been worse than you are right now for a lot of my life in exactly these respects, but I’ve learned this. The hard way. Focus your attention on others’ needs and what they want, and then act in the awareness both of what you want and they want, and you will almost magically achieve things that have been hard for you to work out. And a damn good spanking wouldn’t hurt either. LOL. OK, I will end my sermon now and tell you how it is. I meant it when I said I hope you find what you want, including in this special need we both understand that most people just don’t have. It’s not insurmountable, or a curse. Just the opposite, as people say these days, it’s a superpower. It’s socially unacceptable, so you have to be discreet, but it’s perfectly doable, and you can make it work to keep you in line, keep your emotional and physical tone in the right place, and, well, I think you know: if you’re into it, there simply is no greater turn on. That’s what kinks really are: highly focused maximum turn-ons, that people find out at some point in their life is really there, and not going away. It’s not purely sexual, but it carries over into whatever other erotic activity you engage in and intensifies it and makes it so much better. So. I expect nothing from you. Maybe you didn’t even read all of this. People don’t like to be lectured. But if you did, here’s how it’s gotta be. I imagine I will not hear from you again, but if you really want to break through the crap and get together, after all, there is only one way that’s gonna happen. You have to propose an encounter. Day and time. And convince me you will really show up. One last chance. My husband will likely be there, but possibly not, you have to take that as part of the deal. If you do show up, you can expect a really hard spanking that will leave you red and sore for a couple of days. Because that’s what you really need right now; believe me, I can tell. Like I said, I don’t expect anything. But those are the terms, so you decide. In any case, best of luck to you, in all sincerity. I mean it when I say I hope you are fulfilled and happy in your life, whether it includes any further encounter with me or not.  ~David

‘You’re getting the hairbrush and corner time’     OR ‘Time for the strap son, now go wait in the corner’   OR ‘Fetch the paddle NOW’   Come on Dads!   Why can’t we boys pick our own punishment, why can’t it be:   ‘Do you want the paddle or my hand ‘  OR ‘Do you need some corner time’      OR ‘Do you deserve punishment’    OR ‘hugs or spanking Son’   See .. we could pick!

Okay guys, I have completed the final phase of testing on our test site.   What I have done is essentially replicated the entire script, with the latest version and a fresh database.  At present the data is correct and it functions as expected.   Videos are uploading perfectly and groups are also working.  Also, the videos will now play in full mode as they should from both the feed and the actual menu option.   I am getting ready to do the final import, at sometime today or tomorrow.   We are stripping out a lot of blocks and modules that frankly we just do not need and this will help with overall performance.   I kicked up a fuss with the script author over several modules that we purchased and are no longer compatible, the resolution is that they have given us access to the mobile application that can be downloaded from both Google Play and the Apple Stores.  This will be configured once we export over and the site is up to speed with no problems.  I will post more about this, but essentially it will help a lot for those members that prefer using mobile devices.  Desktop users will not notice and difference.   I have also upgraded our license for our chat bar (not the one presently in use), this will give us full download access to the latest version and both audio and video chat capabilities.  In order to reduce overhead on the server we will be using their push notification service.  The installation will require the chat bar authors technical support and again on completion of the export, I will raise a ticket to get everything installed correctly.  This will be free of charge for us.   We will now be running with two servers and a VPS.  The main server, as well as a backup server which will have replication setup, the backup server will also act as content delivery network or CDN, which will be next on the list for configuration.  The VPS is going to be used for research and development and aid with out move eventually to social engine.   So, hope some of this makes sense, and now of course is the time to put it all together.  I will setup an announcement as soon as I have decided which day and what time.  While the refresh of the main server and data export is taking place, the site will be unavailable for several hours.   Thanking everyone for their continued support and patience.

So, having spent some time testing, evaluating and frustrating .. here is some good news.   With a fresh installation, no bells and whistles but with complete functionality, the site will work for mobile based devices, including phone and tablets from an app that can be downloaded via google and apple stores. (Please do NOT download and attempt to connect, just yet).   I want to emphsize that for desktop users everything will be as it is right now, no need for downloading apps ..   We do have a number of modules that will not work with the mobile side of things and would need to be removed, but everything such as videos, photos, posts etc will 100% work on both desktop and mobile devices.   The chat bar will not work on mobile and tablets, but there is a certified one from the script vendor that will work on both desktops and mobiles, it also allows video chat, conferences and more.  If you want to check it out here is the URL:   https://store.phpfox.com/apps/chatplus   It is pricey but with this installed and mobile working properly, it will greatly enhance the site and member experience.   If we strip out all the whistle and bells, simplify things, it will also speed up the site .. so I will do more testing and then update you what is our next move.  To be honest it is looking very positive right now.   Hugs   James    

Life seems to be getting back on track.  My second Covid vaccination was two weeks ago.  Yesterday, I had my first spanking in eleven months.  And it was a big one! This spanking was actually with the same top I saw last August.  At the time, I was looking for a more limited session and he was really good with consent.  So I came back asking for more! One thing that struck me as the day approached was how much I’ve been looking forward to getting my butt beat again.  Of course, I willingly asked for a hard spanking and travelled to him to receive it.  But it’s good to know I’m still attracted to the physical side of spankings.  Though I think I was also suffering from “forgetting what it feels like” syndrome. We started with his hand.  I like a bit of hand spanking.  At first, I concentrated on the hardness between my stomach and the arm of the sofa.  But the swats on my butt soon took hold of my attention. Next was the leather paddle.  That’s an interesting sensation - thuddy in the middle and stingy on the sides.  The pain quickly began to build up.  This was the point where I started to get concerned about what I was in for. Then the top picked up the plimsoll and told me, “this is going to hurt”.  He wasn’t wrong!  I really felt every swat. After that, I was allowed to get up and do a bit of cornertime.  My butt was already pulsing with heat.  But everything so far was just the warm up. It was soon time to bend over again.  This time for the punishment strap.  I took 50 hard strikes of leather.  That really got some noises out of me!  And then it was straight on to the cane… The following is a personal note from Ageless Al to himself:  I don’t like the cane! I’ve gained more attraction to the fantasy of the cane over the course of the pandemic.  I entered the meet ready to go all-in on a hard punishment.  My resolve was broken after two dozen strokes of the cane.  When the top checked in with me, I paused…  and then still asked him to bring the number up to 33 strokes.  But that was the end. In the aftermath, I’m not quite as keen to jump into a heavy punishment.  But I suppose that’s a natural reaction to a good caning.  The cane certainly isn’t a limit if another top thinks I need it. My arse is still sore a day later.  My walking got very stiff when I’d been sitting down yesterday.  This session was a good reminder that pain hurts.  But I’m already starting to think about arranging my next spanking meet...

Guys, I know we are still having problems, oh believe me I know!  As much as it is frustrating for you, trust me when I tell you it is more so for myself, but I do have an action plan and it is being implemented.   Also I have not been on the site a lot posting, I simply really do not have the time, I will try here and there, but I really must crack on with this.   The problems can be broken down a bit to server and script, The server we have is actually a very good machine, with a great specification and more than capable of handing three times as many users and the same in content. The largest headache has been Cyberpanel + Litespeed and I love the setup, however it breaks and more often than not, I simply have no idea as to why that is.  At the moment I cannot access several important components, which I really do need.   The script has been a pill as well, the authors updated it so that our old chat bar ceased to function, and you know that is not all right and really pisses me off.  It also screwed up groups and messed up the video playing screen. So enough I say!  It’s time to get us back up and running without all the crap and BS ... no more headaches!   Okay so on the test server (backup server), I have spent days, replicating problems and being able to pinpoint as to where they are coming from, i.e., server or script.  It was tedious but necessary.   I am very confident that I can now move forward and get everything fixed.   This will begin with a fresh copy of the script and a brand-new database; I will then import all the user data into this database.  Next, I will copy in all the videos and images.  This will all be done on the backup server, so no downtime at this point.   Once completed and fully tested on a stable control panel we used in the past, I will reinstall our main server, and copy everything over to it fr om our backup server.   Then we will optimize databases, php and cache system   And oaky poky, pig in a poky - we should be all set.   I just wanted to give you an update, in case you were thinking I was sitting on my butt doing nothing!  So please do excuse me, if I am not on the site posting right now, you know why.   James

Which Works Best for you? Do you mix sex and Spankings? Do you find it a complex question? Since every Daddy and every adult boy is different, I'd be really interested to hear from others, both boys and the Men Who Spank. Let us know what you think!   Carrot or Stick?  For those of us seeking a Domestic Discipline relationship (or in one), you already know the answer for you and your boy. But sometimes it's hard to decide which one it should be. And as males we mostly all know how hard it is to stay sexually attracted to the same person for an extended period of time.    For Daddy and me, Daddy regulates our sexual behaviour too. It's not just a beating on my bottom and that's that. I had to learn to be his boy in the bed first, only then did I get sent to my bedroom for bad behaviour and a whoopin. That turned out to be a good time. Being trained to be his boy (and his training that I quietly "lead" to make sure he was an effective sexual partner as the Man In Charge), we have been able to sustain a sexual and disciplinary Daddy/boy dynamic that works pretty well. I came home after a long time away with family and I found myself really leaning into Daddy. I would just walk up to him in the kitchen and lay my head on his shoulder while he stood there making coffee. Or while he was working, in between his work calls, I'd ask to sit on his knee. Before dinner at a friend's house last night, I asked to sit on his lap while he watched TicToc videos in the living room. I planted a big kiss on him, and after some smooches back, he stood up, pulled down his shorts and I began doing what boys like me are expected to do with Daddy's tool in their face.    Filling Your boy's Mouth Can Be As Important As Spanking His Fanny Red   In the end, it'd been about 10 days apart, and I said to Daddy, "Let's go to the bedroom, at this time of day, anyone can see what we're doing in the front window. We need to be polite." So we did. He bent me over and filled me up. So sometimes the carrot is just as important as The Stick in maintaining a healthy, happy Dom/sub relationship or Daddy/son relationship. In our case, I felt very much his boy and really lucky that Daddy serviced himself with my body. I felt very obedient and happy about that.    Spanking Your boy's Bottom Can Be As Important As Filling His Body With Your Seed There's a funny thing that we do which is keep the adult boy and the sexual behaviour separate. While I often call him Daddy during sex, I am expected to behave as an adult during sex and so I do as I'm told. This means when I'm disciplined, I behave as a boy, not an adult. It's very helpful for us. It creates a useful dividing line and ends up with much more powerful, memory-implanting experiences.   Which Works Best for you? Do you mix sex and Spankings? Do you find it a complex question? Since every Daddy and every adult boy is different, I'd be really interested to hear from others, both boys and the Men Who Spank. Let us know what you think!

Well guys, as much as I hate doing it and I try very hard not to, it is time for a fundraiser for the site. Now please, only donate if you can afford to do so, I mean that.  Right now, with the pandemic everyone is in a difference place, financially, Healthwise and Career Wise.  It is important to concentrate on what matters the most and this site should not be a top priority. If you want to donate, please click on the donate button, or if you have not sone so already consider updating your membership.   Hugs and many thanks   James

Well guys, as you know the upgrade caused us downtime of several days, something I wanted to avoid.  I could have restored from our backup and got us back on-line much sooner, however we would not have achieved our goal.    This upgrade was 100% necessary and I am happy to say will be the very last one using this script.   Do you notice anything different?   I hope not!  You are not supposed to!   The purpose of the upgrade was simply to get the database and file structure updated while identifying blocks and modules that were no longer compatible and of course removing them.   We did this because we want to move away from this script PHPFOX to SOCIAL ENGINE.  Having everything updated makes it easier for support requests with the new script and the database importer.   The script we use at present was developed and created by an amazing guy called Raymond Benc, he had an awesome team of developers and support personnel.  The script was in high demand and new Apps and modules were being heavily developed by 3rd party vendors.   Raymond was forced to sell the script to a company called Younet a number of years ago.  Now they have their fingers in many pies and their business model is to raise as much money as they can from existing script owners.  They have done this by introducing a new product tier and if you want the updated Apps such as mobile, you need to pay a premium of 300% of your original purchase price to get your product updated.  Not only that you then have to pay on-going annual fees.   Okay, this may have been sustainable and of course had to be considered.  Even if I had gone this route, no one is really developing anything new for PHPFOX, basically it’s really only YOUNET themselves.  In contrast Social Engine has a healthy and vibrant 3rd party community   They just screwed me again, by removing support for our chat bar, so I am forced to use one we bought some time ago, its slower but will do the trick meantime.  They did this because, they have developed their own system, with a price tag of almost 1K – now aren’t they just clever?   Now that this upgrade has been achieved, we can start work on a move to SOCIAL ENGINE.  The best part about this is, that it will be developed alongside our existing script.  This means no downtime until we are ready to go live and even then, it will be minimum.   When we achieve this move, which I will begin working on today, we will have an awesome site that is quick, full of the features we want and fully compatible with mobile devices.  That is where we need to be.   I will be posting more on this later, and if you have any questions, please go ahead and reach out.   James